This is the prophetic word for October 2024 – The Men.
Who is this word for? Everyone but primarily for the men. However, if you are a woman, I’m sure you have a father, or perhaps brothers, sons, or your husband, so it would be good for you to read this because it will provide some useful information for you to use in prayer.
This word is based on a dream. This is from one of the members on our prayer team and this was given to her as we were praying for the men.
There are three different people involved in the interpretation (1) the dreamer, (2) some insights from another person on our team and (3) I also fill in some interpretation as well. The three combined will give you a clearer picture.
If you have any additional input on this dream, please put it in the comments.
The Dream
I’m back at my parent’s home. My oldest brother shut himself into a room, and he’s in pain. My husband and I were left with our friend’s children and told them to lead them in an activity, whatever we desired. And I was left in charge. There were two men named Stephen and Jason at the house. It was night and there was a bear outside. I could see the shadow of the bear but it was dark. I ran up to the window in excitement to watch the bear and could hear it as well. I saw from inside the house through the window that there were guys and younger boys running into a house. The older brother was moving his younger brothers in quickly away from the bear.
Back inside my parent’s home, I see my dad in the bedroom and he’s getting ready to give my mom a bath (in real life my mom is disabled from a stroke and so she’s helpless and dad is in role of caretaker). I watch my dad aggressively and impatiently throwing her into the bathtub. I run over to make sure my mom’s ok and she’s a little shaken from how violently he threw her in. And she looks a bit contorted or mangled in the tub. I can tell my dad’s upset because he’s mad about having to take care of her and because he feels she’s a burden and keeping him from his “life.” Anger has come over him except the whole time he never shows it, inwardly know it’s there and it’s his selfishness. Everyone in the dream is unclothed. My dad’s lower front is wrapped in a towel. I know he’s naked but he’s covered up, but just barely.
In my anger, I run up to my dad and start punching his arm and he does not budge. I threw a fist at him and it just did nothing when I hit his arm. Just a small thump. And I knew I couldn’t stand up to him as I’m screaming at him. And I recognize the abuse. He’s taking his anger out on my mom because she is standing in the way of what he wants to do with his life. I could tell how little strength I had compared to my dad in dream, even if he wanted to crumple me up and toss me across the room he could. He was bigger in dream so I knew he was much stronger and I couldn’t live up to his strength, but I’m not stopping. Because I can’t physically do anything, I run and am frantic to Stephen and Jason to see if they will retaliate, and they are also naked, each on one side of the couch but unprepared to know what to do. And so they don’t move. My dad comes in and scoffs to the two men, “if you’re going to do something you should be a little more prepared to attack.” I’m in a panic because I need to do something so I run to find my older brother, who’s still in his room, to see if he will do anything about it and the dream ends.
The time I woke up was 7:38
Overview of the dream
The dream is about the men in our society today from different generations. The bear outside represents the Bear Country, look that up if you want to know what that is, it is indicative of the war that is coming.
The dream shows the preparedness, or lack thereof, of the men. This is men in general BUT doesn’t represent all men. Much like we’ll all agree that the church is not prepared but that doesn’t mean all churches or every single member of the church is not prepared.
Interpretation from the dreamer
1 Corinthians 7:38
“So then both he who gives his own virgin daughter in marriage does well, and he who does not give her in marriage will do better.”
I saw the different types of men represented in dream
(1) My dad, the strong one, but instead of using his strength to protect he uses it to abuse. He’s from a [post-war generation], 85 years old but he had the strength of a slightly younger man, so he could represent a [boomer]. Dad is covered up with towel – Adam’s fig leaf. Adam covering up his shame.
(2) The two men sitting on the couch (“couch potatoes”) they were Millenials- sitting idly by, idleness, indifference, inaction. The names of the men..
Stephen means crown, honor, renown, fame.
Jason means healer, the Lord’s salvation
(3) The older brother he represents Generation X, he’s 50 – not present, absent, hiding, or unaware. He was also dealing with his own pain, could be consumed in that.
(4 and 5) The guys I was watching outside through the window from inside the house was an older brother — he appeared to be college-aged, I’d say definitely a [Gen-Zer] and his younger brothers he was hurriedly shooing inside the house were my guess 7-12 years old, [Gen Alpha].
The fact that I was seeing the younger generations outside, but they were the ones responding to the bear (the war) and aware of what’s going on, (no one in my parent’s house had a clue) might mean that it is the younger generations that are preparing the way for what’s coming. Maybe the Lord will use them to wake the earlier generations up, since I was watching what they were doing in the dream.
And seeing the men in the dream naked, I interpreted as me seeing through them and their weaknesses.
Additional insight from someone else on the team:
The exposure of how men deal with pain, a) projecting it on others as the father did to the mother, and b) isolation as the brother who had the issues and went into the room and closed the door. I believe this revealed to us the two primary ways that men deal with trauma, projection and isolation.
The issue of the pain/trauma was generational because both the father and the son (dad and brother) were dealing with what appeared to be emotional issues.
The men that sat idly on the couch were name Stephen and Jason their names meant crown and healing/healer. The two men sat idle on the couch because neither the son nor the father accessed/activated the power that was in the house. They were never called on or took their pain to the healer which in turn gave Stephen and Jason nothing to do. They never accessed their crown or the healing which they needed.
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Adding to the interpretation
I want to go back to the very beginning of what started all of this. The fact that the children were left with someone else. The dreamer and her husband were watching someone else’s children.
I believe in today’s society how we are raising children is very different. The men are lacking mentorship. They are not really being trained and taught on traditional values and how to be men. Again, not all but most. There is a void there in a single parent household. Now it’s like Television, Social Media and devices are raising our children.
This is going to cause a breakdown of the family unit and a loss of IDENTITY. Social media and the internet will then lead them into the path of gender role confusion.
The anger of the father towards the mother is based on his frustration because he’s not in his ROLE. God created men and women and we have different roles. In his current position, he’s turned into the homemaker. This is not his role. Hence, he will be frustrated and this will lead him to be angry because deep down he knows this is not what he should be doing.
Please know that I am not saying men should never take care of women if there are seasons when this is necessary, I am saying in the context of this dream it is showing that when there is a role reversal situation happening this will be the reaction of the men – anger, frustration, rejection, projection, abuse. He was taking his anger out on a poor helpless woman that had nothing to do with the role reversal.
The scripture that was shared by the dreamer is fitting for the dream. Yes, some people are not meant to be married. You must realize that there may be moments when you will have to put your wife first above all your other goals, dreams and aspirations if she needs you in that moment. If a man is not willing to lay down his life and his own dreams when his wife needs him, then he probably shouldn’t get married. And, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that!
1 Corinthians 7:7-9 (The Message)
7 Sometimes I wish everyone were single like me—a simpler life in many ways! But celibacy is not for everyone any more than marriage is. God gives the gift of the single life to some, the gift of the married life to others.
8-9 I do, though, tell the unmarried and widows that singleness might well be the best thing for them, as it has been for me. But if they can’t manage their desires and emotions, they should by all means go ahead and get married. The difficulties of marriage are preferable by far to a sexually tortured life as a single.
There are sacrifices to be made in a marriage and if a person can’t do that, then it is best to stay single.
His help was sitting in the living room waiting on him – his crown, the restoration of his honor and role was there right next to Jesus, the healer and his salvation and all he needed to do was walk out into the living room and ask for help.
I’m thankful that at the end of the dream, he finally stepped into the living room and took hold of what was available to him. When he said to them if you’re going to do something you should be a little more prepared to attack, this says that he recognizes that the men are under attack, not just from the bear country, but a spiritual attack on the men, that his role was under attack, that his destiny and stepping into who he is was also under attack. He awakened from his slumber. Now, he’s finally WOKE! LOL. We seriously need to take back the meaning of our words. We’ll leave that for another day.
Notice it is the older generation that had to take responsibility to then pick up the mantle of training the younger generation. The dream doesn’t say this but from the moment he steps into the role we can now believe that he’s going to get his son that is isolated in the room, go out and get the younger ones that are outside hiding and begin to function and operate as the men in our society should.
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So what do we do now? First, pray for the men. The dream clearly shows the issues and also offers the solution.
Second, the women need to abdicate the role! Yes, abdicate the masculine role if you’ve stepped into it.
Abdicate – renounce one’s throne, to fail to fulfill or undertake a duty
Give them back their crown. I see so many women, again not all, that have taken on this masculine role. And because they are getting their cues from society they believe this is correct. The truth is, it is a trap. As angry as the men are, the women are too. Interesting thing, we are angry for the same reason! Frustrated when we are not in the roles God created us to fulfill.
The original influencer was EVE, it wasn’t someone on social media. She got him to eat that apple. So if all the women begin to influence in this direction saying, umm, no thanks, let the men be the men….society would have to backup with this campaign because the women refused to take up the role. If someone is trying to give something to you and you refuse to take it, it is left there. Just refuse to jump on this train, that’s all. Abdicate.
This in no way means that you are to sit there like a lump on a log at your house, you can still pursue your dreams, goals and career, and do what you need to do. I see the pendulum swinging all the way in the other direction with some women in that they realized that society bought into the feminism so hard that now want to course correct with what they call the “soft life” except it’s a bunch of women sitting around consuming things, being lazy by doing absolutely nothing and calling it “feminine”!
I’m going to teach on Proverbs 31 for the women so we can all see what it should be.
Because the dream featured men of different generations, it gave all the prayer points for the men. I’m going to give them to you so that you can pray for them using these
The Prayer points:
-For parents to take up the role of training and mentoring their children, specifically the boys.
-For the boys who are in single parent household to find the right godly mentorship, and not be led to predators.
-For the men to be delivered from issues of abandonment, lack, anger, emotional issues, hiding from responsibilities and role reversal.
-For the men not to be afraid of their emotions or view it as a sign of weakness.
-For the realization to come that all of this is already exposed, there’s nothing hidden. Therefore, the only response is to change and pick up the role that has been abandoned.
-For those who are called to a life of singleness to embrace that and those who are called to being married will embrace that as well. Both without fear.
-For the men to have a full understanding of what their role is, in society and in their marriages. And for those who don’t know to seek godly counsel from other men in the church, not predators.
-For the men who are called to be the caretakers of their wives or family for a season, to embrace the role as one appointed by God with joy and willingness to serve in that capacity with love.
-For the men who as sitting on the sidelines and opting out of any responsibility to realize that they are a crucial part of how the future generation will operate and they are also mentors with their actions to the young boys who are watching them.
-For the younger generation of men who will be called on to fight wars to not be afraid of the season that approaches but to find mentors in those of the older generations who have gone through similar situation. Gleaning from their experiences as a part of their preparation for what is to come.
-For the women to understand their role in society and in relationships and to encourage the men to step into their roles.
I believe that is it. If you have other prayer points or any other things you want to add to the interpretation, please put it in the comments below.
Blessings
I was listening to this from Lausanne – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2df1BRD6Bo, as i was driving and i remembered it evoked a lot of strong emotions inside me, because it resonated with what i believe Holy Spirit has already been impressing on my heart in recent years. Then few days later, i saw your post here. So imagine, the even more ‘violent’ emotions that burst forth. It’s a confirmation of so many things.
Today, if you go to most missions/religious organisations, NGOs or even churches, a popular theme or focus is always on the women and children, and rightly so, because they are the vulnerable ones and have been for the longest time. In every war, it’s always ‘save the women and children FIRST’.
However, for about a few years now, i have been led to see more and more now, that men are broken and weak everywhere i go. Men need saving too ! Who are usually the perpetrators and abusers in the scandals and exposure we’ve been seeing in the past few years ? Men. Who are the largest porn users all over the world ? Men. Fun fact – more than 70% of pastors are hooked on porn, and that’s just in the US alone ! I don’t even dare to imagine the numbers if the global church take an in-depth survey/study. Who are the worst sex traffickers ? Men. And on and on the list goes. No wonder revival tarries.
The church is weak because today’s men are weak, and when they’re weak, family becomes weak. Church becomes weak. Nations become weak. It always begins with the man, because that’s God’s design. Don’t blame Eve. Adam was at fault and failed too.
The problem is, men do not seek help easily when they go through struggles because the stigma from society is a lot higher, and when mixed with shame and the male ego, it’s not hard to see why men can be ensnared so easily by the enemy, and struggle so hard to get out. That’s why you see gangs are mostly led and are full of men. It’s just how the world works and the enemy knows how to exploit this too.
I echo what the speaker in that youtube i posted above. Most men’s discipleship ‘programs’ or even a typical male church group are just so shallow, and never seem to address the real issues that most men struggle with, and that’s why we’re seeing churches crumbling like a pack of cards so easily all over the world. Attack the shepherds, whom btw, are mostly men, and your sheep becomes easy prey.
It’s also why we’re seeing so many men, esp. the watchmen behaving like cowards – dumb dogs who have forgotten how to bark. When Hitler infiltrated the church, it was the weak men who allowed them in and within a short period of time, the Nazis overtook the church. Too easy. Only the Niemollers and Bonhoeffers put up admirable resistance but where were the rest ? Sold out to the world and not to Christ, sadly.
I’m Gen X and i know from personal experience, what happens when men do not take up their God given mantle and are seduced by the world. It doesn’t take much effort to seduce a Christian man, these days – sad but true. That’s why when we walk into any prayer meeting (if they’re still alive! most dont even exist anymore in churches!), it’s mostly full of old sisters (no offense!). Where are the men who would storm Heaven and pray ? Gone are the days when men would LEAD prayer meetings !
But God always keeps a remnant – i believe it’s not only the new generation of GenZ that He’s raising up, but there’s a small generation of older men who haven’t given up the fight, the ‘700 prophets’ that Obadiah hid, if you like, that have continued to prevail despite being battle-weary, and these guys are pivotal in guiding and walking TOGETHER with the new and current generation as a band of brothers. No one greater or lesser than the other. Men, young and old, fathers and sons turning the hearts of one another back to each other and to their Heavenly Father.
And i think this is something that the enemy is going on an ALL OUT ATTACK to destroy and not see it come to pass. Never before in any generation, we’re seeing men wanting to become women. Cross-dressing is no longer exciting anymore. Now they want a full sex-op. If that isn’t a CLEAR indication of the enemy’s INTENSE onslaught on men, i don’t know what else to say, except cry in despair.
So yes, PLEASE PRAY FOR US MEN. We are under TREMENDOUS attack like never before in any past generations. Pray for the WARRIORS to arise. The soldiers of Christ to stand up and be counted !
Because THE WAR (not any other war but THE WAR) has already begun and the trumpet is being sounded.
Christ the King will be returning soon, and He needs His bow, arrows and sword. Pray that the men, the prisoners of hope, take up their positions at their strongholds for the great battle. Pray for the protection of male preachers all over the world, to be steadfast, to stand firm and not yield to compromise, that they will be bold to proclaim the WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD, and nothing but the FULL GOSPEL TRUTH.
Nakedness in a dream I don’t think means “uncovered”.
I think in this case, nakedness means you are seeing things “as they really are” meaning, there is nothing being hidden. There is nothing covering the true thoughts/feelings of the head and heart.
In the case of the dream with your mom, it would mean you see your dad is frustrated and struggling with anger. Maybe insight for you to intercede in prayer or even to offer more assistance as a daughter or ask dad. It can be really hard to be a caretaker and his whole life was altered by a stroke too. Perhaps he needs ministering and support too as he works through his life that was turned upside down.
I love this dream and the interpretations given! I definitely felt the whole “role reversal” mention and not in a bad way. Let me explain…
Because of the economy and the way things are now/currently, you see a lot of children taking care of parents, or parents living with their children, or even adult children moving back in with their parents. As a whole, we are seeing the family dynamic and structure having shifted. We are seeing a lot of things we’ve seen before as long standing ideals, but many things we are seeing we haven’t seen before.
I currently am a young, independent, college educated woman who is currently taking care of an ailing parent.. it’s something I never saw in the “vision board” but it’s something that I’ve taken on in recent years. I eventually want to get married (or thought I had a desire to) but after caring for my parent and the enormous sacrifice it takes, I’m reconsidering marriage altogether..maybe that was the test to see if marriage really was my portion?
Any way, this phrase stuck out to me “Frustrated when we are not in the roles God created us to fulfill.”
Frustration, exasperation, question marks and all the things have come regarding this role that I’ve taken on. My payment is not married and so as the eldest, I felt a duty to take care of in a way. Which brings me to my next point. Sometimes we have to do what we don’t want to do for a season. Isn’t that what sacrifice is? You may not want to do it, but you do it out of love and sometimes an obligation (to God). What struck me in the dream is that the dreamer hit her dad on the arm. I understand the frustration and trying to defend the mother, but I also believe in “honouring our father and mother” so that our days may be long on earth. This is the first commandment with promise.
The dad’s frustration and relationship with the mother has nothing to do with the kids..hope I’m making sense. The covenant between husband and wife is not the same between children and their parents.
I believe that God wants us, even as adults to still honor our parents, no matter what they do (it their actions may be reprehensible and disappointing). The dreamer probably should have spoken to the parent about his actions instead of abusing him. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
No interpretation just comments that many will/may have to experience situations and roles that are not suitable or comfortable or an inconvenience, but God knows. These situations could be testing our character and strengthening the fruits of the spirit in our lives. God is intentional and purposeful in everything He does. Off my soapbox now 😉
Come on now! Excellent interpretation!!! I agree on all points. The other thing I saw as I was reflecting on it again is that in the very beginning the dreamer said she was in charge. There are 5 men in the house and 2 outside, but the woman was the one in charge. From the very beginning the role reversal was there. These are all valid points and I do believe you are correct in saying that these are part of the tests and the temptation to prune us of all these hidden things. Once we handle it well, the whole situation will change. In the end the dad stepped into his role, but at the same time that didn’t change the fact that the mom still needed care. I believe in embracing the season we are in, God will give us strategies to “lighten the load” so we can still fulfill our roles and take care of what we need to take care of.
Dee, You never know if it is in the taking care of your mom that your husband will find that as an attractive characteristic in you. Don’t forget Ruth and Naomi, she stuck with her to take care of her when she could’ve gone off to find a husband. As a result of that she met Boaz. That word is for you. Blessings
Thank you for your words! Amen. I am actually taking care of my father. And I do believe your words are confirmation. A mother in my church was just talking to me yesterday about how I am Ruth and my Boaz is observing me. I believe my Boaz or my person/husband is talking to God about me. Thank you for the reassurance. We will see what God has in store! I am excited!
I understand your comment because that’s where I’m at in life. I also understand the honoring your parents even when they are doing wrong by just talking to them about the issues you see them doing.
I would also say with our black men there is an attack on their sexuality. Praying against this and they will see themselves as the men God created them to be and not satan. Amen
Amen! We need to pray. This happens because the fathers are not there and when they go looking for the father figure they end up finding a predator. We need to pray against that.
Amen
Amen, I resonate with this word and the prayer points. I have been praying for boys and. I work in a school and I’m seeing the impact of absent men in boys lives and the family as a whole. I also see an increase in women in positions of leadership in our schools so the boys are missing mentorship and leadership there as well. Teaching in schools has been dominated by women (at least where I am anyway) and I see how boys yearn for male role models. It’s heartbreaking. The resentment, frustration and anger is real. I’m also seeing generationally how men and women engage pain or trauma and how it impacts children and society. Culture plays a huge role in that too as I know in my culture the elders around me do not process pain in a healthy way. May God continue to do His good work and heal and deliver men and women. ‘Rise up oh men of God!’